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WivesRank, Wives and Friendship: Can They Mix?

Officer and enlisted wives speak on the subject.

by Tanya Biank

 

Making friends is hard enough

Some wives have close officer/enlisted friendships.  When Sarah Walter’s husband was a second lieutenant, she became best friends with a specialist’s wife.  The two women met at a mandatory recycling class on post and discovered they shared similar interests such as knitting and quilting.  Both enjoyed talking about politics and current events, and shared many viewpoints and values.

“I’ve found that it’s hard enough to make lasting friendships in this world, and limiting your options to a certain rank, immediately halving your chances of finding happiness, seems absurd,” says Sarah, whose husband is now a captain.  She’s learned a lot from her enlisted friends, and vice versa. “I think too often people assume they know how other ranks live, when in fact they don’t know much about the differences at all.”

Their jobs do not define us

Bethany Freeman, an enlisted Air Force wife, learned a life lesson while on a flight headed to her hometown in Georgia.  She struck up a conversation with a woman across the aisle and found they were from the same base.  “After talking about pretty much everything under the sun, I discovered that she was the wife of the second or third highest-ranking man on the base,” Bethany says.  It scared her for a minute.  “Then I remembered that I had been talking to her for an hour already, and she was just a person, a wonderful human being who chatted with a young mother on a long flight, then carried my diaper bag for me while I carried my sleeping son until we made it to baggage claim and both found our families.  That cemented in my mind the realization that we are all just humans.  Our husbands have jobs, with different responsibilities, different ranks, different perspectives and different personalities.”

“We are wives, [our husbands’] support,” Bethany says.  “We are tied to their jobs by our love for them.  But also we are women, we are independent, and, in the end, their jobs do not define us.”

 



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justasubwife12/12/2007 9:10:12 AM
<<<“I’ve found that it’s hard enough to make lasting friendships in this world, and limiting your options to a certain rank, immediately halving your chances of finding happiness, seems absurd,” says Sarah>>> I LOVE this statement! Thank you Sarah for saying this. Megan
mayrand980712/12/2007 2:00:48 PM
This article is amazing! I love meeting people who work with my husband & thier spouses. Just because my husband isn't a Col. doesn't mean that I can't befriend the Col.'s wife...which I have. We are all people in the grand scheme of things, why shouldn't we get along? And we can ALL definately learn from each other regardless of our spouse's rank!
jhqsmom12/12/2007 9:59:41 PM
I am glad that someone has given enlightenment to all those negative minds that do not realize that we are women and need friends for support, no matter who we are married to.
lovin_army_wife1/22/2008 9:07:53 PM
One of my good friends/neighbor is a 1st Lt.'s wife and she is a wonderful person. My husband is an enlisted (PFC) and her and I talk all the time. We don't wear the rank our husbands do.
n2healing1/23/2008 12:28:40 PM
Have a friendship develop while moving around is a hard thing indeed. Unfortunately, some wives do stay away from certain ladies because of what their husbands do and their rank. I find this is the most difficult part of being a military wife.
cbwife4/23/2008 8:41:44 AM
Thank you for writing this... I think it is better to see it written on here rather than in the forum... The forum question created much a do about nothing. I totally agree with the comment that it is hard enough to make friends much less to limit your options. I have yet to meet many military wives that I can get along with and enjoy their company, it's a hard lifestyle, but thank God I work a lot and I go to school so I am not completely lonely... YET!!!
Blackhawk_wife4/23/2008 8:54:42 AM
While I do wish that the military still had a lot of the older traditions of social events like the big dining outs and the white glove teas, I am glad that we, as wives, are no longer defined by our husband's rank. I have always found it irritating to try and interact with a wife who "wears her husband's rank." I was exceedingly greatful when I found out that as an officer's wife I wouldn't be "required" to be an upstanding member of the OSC. I find that for the most part, when I meet another wife, unless she's in my huband's unit, I don't even know who her husband is or what he does. Before my huband commissioned, I was worried about this issue, but so far, I have seen little of any kind of social seperation. I always thought it was a bigger problem in the military than it actually is.
Mae_in_Oki4/23/2008 12:59:07 PM
My husband's Enlisted and I'm a retired Officer's daughter, so I've seen both sides of things. I've found that some wives do live up to the stereotypes, but that can be said of any group of people - military or not - anywhere. In my husband's squadron, the Wives work really hard to get all the ladies together and form some friendships, regardless of rank. Half the time, we don't even know what the Boys' ranks are. It's great... though it sure does make it difficult to have dinner with some of my friends' families!
AC4/23/2008 2:47:57 PM
This is a great article, and I personaly have no problem with friendships no matter what your spouses rank is. However, please becareful that it doesn't blow up in your face. And you end up being called into the first SSG office,for "clicking up" because someone isn't into a unit scrapbooking group or can't make lunches. It just takes one jelous hot head to get ya in a boat load of trouble! Ever since that lesson, I shake hands, bring and eat cookies at FRG meetings, but I don't hang with the unit girls anymore, and I no longer do my FRG/POC thing anymore.It put my husband in a sore spot as a commander. It taught me a lesson, yes, he wears the rank, however I sleep next to him, and when I speak or act (even in a scrapbook crop) I need to check myself and not be to friendly. It is sad and I miss the good ole days. Just please becareful with the statement "we don't wear the rank" I disagree, I got roasted because of his rank and sharing to much being a friend. And what is sad I just wanted to complete our wedding album and have a few giggles! I never realized that it would back lash on me the way that it did! What is funny is this happend three years ago and it still hurts! So please just be good to each other...
MrsBrae4/23/2008 3:49:03 PM
You would not believe how many times I'll have made new friends and all of a sudden the light bulb goes off and they say "OMG! I would NEVER have pegged you for an Officer's Wife!" In fact, even though my husband is a Major, I tend to not associate as much with those spouses of his coworkers. Thus far in his career, they've seemed far too "plastic" or "fake" for my tastes and I am not and never will be that way. It is hard enough for me to make friends every 2-3 years, that limiting it to the very few spouses within the "correct" ranks would be very detrimental to my sanity. Thank you for showing us that we are our own people, not our spouse's rank.
Phyllis Zimbler Miller4/23/2008 4:57:11 PM
I very much enjoyed reading about the way the military has changed for the better since the time period of my novel MRS. LIEUTENANT. In 1970 the rank of your husband defined who you were and what was expected of you.
kammaj4/23/2008 6:43:22 PM
For me a lot of the rank issues stem from my husband saying that there are certain fraternization rules. How true are these rules these days? I never ask another spouse what their spouse's rank is because it does not matter to me, but me not making friendships stem mostly on my husband worrying about fraternization.
catros4/23/2008 10:10:55 PM
This is a good article, and I wish I could forward it to the ladies in my unit FRG... being an enlisted wife in a unit where the FRG is made up of officers wives, and if you're not one you aren't acknowledged...especially during deployment, is really hard.
~*~Missy~*~4/25/2008 12:44:21 AM
You know, I think it's SO wrong to judge a wife by the rank of her hubby. I, personally, don't have officer wife friends, because over here in WA, they "click" together. I don't care what rank your hubby is, I get along with everyone, but over here, EVERY wife is click-ish and I think it's SO childish!
Cowtown Ombudsman4/29/2008 7:04:43 AM
In a perfect situation, it really shouldn't matter, but even in the civilian world you can see how a spouse's profession might impact your social circles. As a spouse of a "mustang" (prior enlisted officer) I don't have very many opportunities to make friends on either side of the rank structure. Senior enlisted don't feel comfortable mixing with officers and once the officer community discovers that my hubby was prior enlisted, the invites to both command and social events disappear. It truly is a lonely way to live!
DRE'S WIFEY6/26/2008 10:37:26 PM
I am friends with ladies that are ALL @ a lower rank than my husband but I don't EVER see that. I honestly could care less what rank my friends spouses are. I can't measure a person by their spouses rank. We are all one in the same and none of that matters to me. I love all of my friends and am truly blessed to have all of them in my life. My world would be so much smaller if I allowed my husbands rank to determine who my friends will be.
YNCWIFE6/30/2008 12:08:52 PM
THIS SITE IS GREAT, I WAS ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT MEETING NEW PEOPLE. MY HUSBAND RECENTLY BECAME A CHIEF AT THE EARLY AGE OF 26. IT IS HARD ENOUGH TO MEET PEOPLE AS IT IS AND MY HUSBAND EXPLAINED THE HOLE RANK ISSUE THAT NOW COMES IN PLAY. BEING THAT THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST MOVE TOGETHER I AM SO GREATFUL TO READ THIS.. THANK YOU
liz6/30/2008 2:58:43 PM
This is very encouraging. However, I have recently found many people to be condescending (whether or not they realize it), even if they do not know my husbands rank. They assume that their spouse must outrank mine. I honestly had a wife recently say to me that "she gets jealous of other wives that get to speak with their husbands daily on deployment. She can't speak with her husband as frequently because his job is more important than the junior enlisted." I wish that spouses could leave rank out of issues, they do not carry the rank.
Claudia8/31/2008 10:42:17 PM
Rank is not important to me! I either like ya or not lol

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